Join podcast host Judith W. Umlas as she sits next to the babbling brook that goes under her PA home, and muses on the way Grateful Leadership and Agile Leadership are so well-aligned! She includes an excerpt from Tom Cagley’s Software Process and Measurement Cost (SPaMCast) podcast that featured Susan Parente, PMP, CSM, CSPO and Grateful Leadership Certified Professional, who discuss specific examples of this alignment.